Comments on: The Sanity of Secession http://libertydefenseleague.com/2010/01/30/the-sanity-of-secession/ That Freedom May Live Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:18:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: TheJamestownRoad http://libertydefenseleague.com/2010/01/30/the-sanity-of-secession/comment-page-1/#comment-1498 TheJamestownRoad Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:17:22 +0000 http://libertydefenseleague.com/liberty/?p=692#comment-1498 It was NEVER about Slavery !....very few people have the courage to or God given ability to see this....60 -80 million....that is a perfect price! It was NEVER about Slavery !….very few people have the courage to or God given ability to see this….60 -80 million….that is a perfect price!

]]> By: SonofLiberty http://libertydefenseleague.com/2010/01/30/the-sanity-of-secession/comment-page-1/#comment-1497 SonofLiberty Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:07:27 +0000 http://libertydefenseleague.com/liberty/?p=692#comment-1497 What I find ironic in all of this is: If Lincoln only wanted to save the Union why then has the landscape of our country changed since then? The Federal has not remained small. The Federal Government doesnt just stick to the areas of war, treaties, coining money, post office and only those things which happen in the District of Columbia. There are no militias, nor are our military officers still commissioned by their States legislatures. The President doesn't have to wait for a declaration of war by Congress to be the Commander in Chief. Everything is now Centralized. We are now told that Federal Law trumps state law. The Officers in the military are now appointed by the President. The National Guard are the "militia" of today. The President is now Commander in Chief at all times. What has changed? Its the checks and balances of power that have changed. I think it was designed all along. Those in power wanted a more centralized government unshackled from the chains of the Constitution & Lincoln was their man. The South wanted the Federal Government to follow the Constitution which would have restrained the Feds to those few defined areas laid out in the Constitution. When the Constitution is followed you will see that there are only 17 areas the Feds have authority over and nothing else and that the States are forbidden to legislate in those 17 areas. Outside of the 17 areas delegated to the Feds the States and or the people have the right to make the laws as they wish. Only an Amendment to the Constitution can give the Feds more power. So what we have today is a bastardized America. To respond to Mr Walker who previously replied. The question isnt whether a Civil War could happen again, its how much do you value your liberties?? If it takes 60-80 million people to die so that we can all have our freedoms back then I say, yes". -Son of Liberty USMC Reserves-Retired What I find ironic in all of this is:

If Lincoln only wanted to save the Union why then has the landscape of our country changed since then?

The Federal has not remained small. The Federal Government doesnt just stick to the areas of war, treaties, coining money, post office and only those things which happen in the District of Columbia.
There are no militias, nor are our military officers still commissioned by their States legislatures. The President doesn’t have to wait for a declaration of war by Congress to be the Commander in Chief.

Everything is now Centralized. We are now told that Federal Law trumps state law. The Officers in the military are now appointed by the President.
The National Guard are the “militia” of today.
The President is now Commander in Chief at all times.

What has changed? Its the checks and balances of power that have changed.

I think it was designed all along. Those in power wanted a more centralized government unshackled from the chains of the Constitution & Lincoln was their man.

The South wanted the Federal Government to follow the Constitution which would have restrained the Feds to those few defined areas laid out in the Constitution.

When the Constitution is followed you will see that there are only 17 areas the Feds have authority over and nothing else and that the States are forbidden to legislate in those 17 areas. Outside of the 17 areas delegated to the Feds the States and or the people have the right to make the laws as they wish. Only an Amendment to the Constitution can give the Feds more power.

So what we have today is a bastardized America.

To respond to Mr Walker who previously replied. The question isnt whether a Civil War could happen again, its how much do you value your liberties??

If it takes 60-80 million people to die so that we can all have our freedoms back then I say, yes”.

-Son of Liberty
USMC Reserves-Retired

]]> By: Bill Walker http://libertydefenseleague.com/2010/01/30/the-sanity-of-secession/comment-page-1/#comment-1496 Bill Walker Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:55:22 +0000 http://libertydefenseleague.com/liberty/?p=692#comment-1496 One simple question. The last time this issue was advocated it caused a civil war and cost 600,000 American lives. In today's terms that could mean as many as 60 to 80 MILLION lives. Can Mr. Baldwin or anyone else guarantee this won't happen again? One simple question. The last time this issue was advocated it caused a civil war and cost 600,000 American lives. In today’s terms that could mean as many as 60 to 80 MILLION lives. Can Mr. Baldwin or anyone else guarantee this won’t happen again?

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